They sit near the top of the hill, as you are headed out of town, going up the hill and the speed does not change until after you crest the top of the hill. Speed is 45 and I got nailed doing 55 as I thought I was far enough out of town that the speed was higher, also was accelerating going up the hill then speed increased as I crested the top of the hill however speed limit does not go up for another 1/2 mile.