sheriff or chp sit at the stop sign, if waiting for traffic, you can’t see him because you are coming out of the town, the speed limit changes to 45mph, but usually they hit the gas and are going faster. they are over 55 by the time they pass him. as far as the western mine road goes. I can see them sitting right in front of my house, they swoop down shady grove road and pick them off one by one, as they have just come off of St. Helena Mt., by the time they go past me, they are definately speeding. They hide, and that is not right. They pick them up on radar through the hill. Going south they hide in the trees in the shade, you can’t see them as you approach the curve in the road just before Western Mine Road..