N. Woodlawn Avenue near St. Genevieve School

Warson Woods, MissouriJun 14, 20071 Comments

School zone from 7:00am until 6:00pm on school days, whether children are present or not, speed limit is reduced from 30mph to only 15mph. In addition there is a 4-way stop sign at which only a full stop is tolerated, no matter the level of traffic.

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Allegedly, Warson Woods, Missouri is operating a school speed zone outside of the reasonable guidance policy of Missouri Department of Transportation (MODOT) at the 1500 block of N. Woodlawn Avenue near the St. Genevieve School Landmark. According to MODOT's Engineering Policy Guide section 903.16.6 states that School Speed Limits, upon receipt of a school speed limit request, the district shall perform a speed study and site investigation. The school speed limit shall be 10 mph below either the posted speed limit or the 85th percentile speed, whichever is higher, as determined by the speed study. In no case will a school speed limit of less than 25 mph be allowed. 15 mph is less than the recommended 25 mph. It is not my guidance policy but rather MODOT’s that reads very clearly “In no case will a school speed limit of less than 25 mph be allowed”. Warson Woods vigorously defends its under limit speed of 15mph and issues very expensive tickets of which I have one. See it for yourself at http://epg.modot.mo.gov/index.php?title=903.16_Traffic_Controls_for_School_Areas Why does Warson Woods deserve special treatment. Should Warson Woods return all of the fines collected in the 15mph school zone if they are found that they are operating a school speed zone out of the limits in the Policy guide set by MODOT???? Warson Woods does not want to hear that. MODOT: 903.16.1 Need for Standards (MUTCD Section 7A.01) Regardless of the school location, the best way to achieve reasonably safe and effective traffic control is through the uniform application of realistic policies, practices and standards developed through engineering judgment. Warson Woods does not want to hear that also. Pedestrian safety depends upon public understanding of accepted methods for efficient traffic control. This principle is especially important in the control of pedestrians, bicycles, and other vehicles in the vicinity of schools. Neither pedestrians on their way to or from school nor road users can be expected to move safely in school areas unless they understand both the need for traffic controls and how these controls function for their benefit. Procedures and devices that are not uniform might cause confusion among pedestrians and road users, prompt wrong decisions, and contribute to crashes. To achieve uniformity of traffic control in school areas, comparable traffic situations need to be treated in a consistent manner. Warson Woods does not think so as evident in the enforcement of a 15mph school speed zone. Each traffic control device and control method described in Traffic Controls for School Areas fulfills a specific function related to specific traffic conditions. This should be applied equally throughout Missouri including Warson Woods, Missouri and to its 15mph school speed zone. Warson Woods does not want to hear it, they just want to grab the publics money knowing full well no one will take them on in court.
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