state highway 62 and Interstate 244 north of Newcastle

Newcastle, OklahomaDec 30, 20022 Comments

I am a service business owner and drive approx 85000 miles each year. I cover mainly the central/south central part of Oklahoma. There are several traps in these small towns but I would classify Newcastle, Oklahoma as the worst I have personally seen. As one travels north or south through their town the speed limits are fair and I really see no problem there. However, when you travel north out of the town the city limit is at the south edge of the Canadian river. The river is the boundry between Newcastle City limits and Oklahoma City. It is also the county border between Cleveland and Grady Counties. The speed limit at this point is 70mph as it is an interstate. The HE Bailey turnpike terminates about one mile from the Canadian river. The turnpike traffic spills into the interstate traffic which runs for approx one mile in Newcastle city limits before it crosses over into Oklahoma City. At night, the Newcastle police hide behind an overpass just before the interstate goes over the river and into Oklahoma City jurisdiction. From the point where the officers sit in their patrol car and the river boundry is no more than maybe 500 feet. They then follow you into Oklahoma City jurisdiction, pull you over and write you a ticket. The river bridge is about a half mile wide. In my own case the officer followed me in a crowd of three vehicles. The officer finally turned his lights on and pulled me over at SW134th street which is three miles out of his jurisdiction. When I refused to sign the ticket because I did not recognize his authority, the officer attempted to pull me out of my vehicle and arrest me. All of this and my crime, according to him, was going 5/10 miles over the speed limit. Remember, I was traveling in a pack of vehicles. Also, he did not even begin his pursuit until we were over 2 miles into Oklahoma City limits. The officer told me he could pursue me to hell and back if I broke the law in his town. Those were his words. But the problem is he did not "begin" the pursuit in his town. He waited until we were 2 miles in the OKC city limits and then picked me out of the three vehicles. I complained to the Oklahoma City Police and the Oklahoma Highway Patrol. Both said the Newcastle Police should not go out of their jurisdiction unless they initiated the pursuit, ie,lights flashing, in their own jurisdiction. Furthermore, my ticket did not indicate I was pulled over 3 miles out of the City limits. By reading the ticket one would believe I was pulled over and ticketed in the Newcastle City limit. After you sign the ticket the officer can tell the judge whatever he wants. I live three miles north of the city limit and can tell you this is a normal ongoing practice by the Newcastle police. You cannot research this because they do not indicate in the ticket they are pulling you over several miles out of their jurisdiction.

this was posted a long time ago, but it was so comical to me I had to respond to this. 1st - The City limits go half way across the bridge itself, by your estimate, lets go 1/2 and agree that Newcastle has about 1/4 of a mile on the bridge itself..its also about another 1/4 of a mile from the overpass (Exit 108a) to the bridge, so thats 1/2 a mile. 2nd- Its not Clevland/Grady counties, its Clevland/McClain Counties border. 3rd - Its actually about 2 miles to the bridge from where the HE Bailey ends, not 1 mile. 4th - If you commit a violation inside of Newcastle's City Limits, they can follow you into OKC's Jurisdiction its called "Fresh Prusuit" look it up..Its totally legal and nothing wrong with it. 5th - Radars can track more then 1 target now and Newcastle has the latest equipment in their vehicles. They even have a "Lidar" (Thats a handheld lazer that can pinpoint a speeder out of a group, it has sights just like a gun. It does not take a rocket scientest to see what car is sucking the paint of off the others when your speeding. 6th - SW 134th is 2 miles North of the River bridge, not 3. When someone is doing ohh lets say 80-85MPH (10-15MPH over the speed limit), it takes some time for the officers car to reach that speed and actually go past it so that they can catch the violater (in this case..YOU). So catching you in 2 miles is actually normal or even good in that distance. You did NOT get stopped for 5/10 over, you were doing more then that I promise, but the officer was probably being nice to you and reduced it to keep it off of your driving record. Why don't you scan it and post it so we can see ourselves. 7th - Did you go to jail for refusing to sign the ticket, because thats what should have happened. Signing the Citation is NOT an admission of guilt, it is an O.R. signature saying that you promise to be in court, so if you refuse to sign it, then they take you to jail and you get to post a "Cash" bond in the same amount. 8th - Look at what the Citation says. "Location of violation" not Location of stop. There is a difference, think about it and get back to me. I hope that I cleared up any of the questions or comments that this individual posted about. This was clearly the rantings of someone who thought that they knew the law better then the officer in question. Newcastle does not stop people for doing 5 mph over the speed limit..thats crazy.
#1Apr 30, 2010Report Abuse
The original poster seems to not know what he is talking about.
#2Dec 24, 2011Report Abuse

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